|
Post by Abby on Sept 18, 2006 20:20:58 GMT
I'm running out of things to say, I'm gunna go grab some breaky and then I might drop in to see if any of ya's are still around.
Catch ya later
|
|
|
Post by claire on Sept 18, 2006 20:23:04 GMT
see ya Abby, gettin late here
|
|
|
Post by Abby on Sept 18, 2006 20:24:17 GMT
Just had a quick look, seems its only you and me left Claire, Oonagh must have left. I'll stay and listen to what you've got so say about Fresh Powder if there is anything left Claire.
|
|
|
Post by nicc on Sept 18, 2006 20:35:53 GMT
Well I finally made it. It is now 6.30am for me and so tired I didn't get to bed til 1am because I worked last night but kids woke me up early so thought I'd pop on here first thing. I'll just read all the comments then add my own.
|
|
|
Post by Abby on Sept 18, 2006 20:36:04 GMT
Shirley and Nic, I see you both on. What did you think of the book Nic? I'm going to grab some breaky but I'll leave this page up so I can duck back and check whats been posted every now and then.
|
|
|
Post by Shirley on Sept 18, 2006 21:10:24 GMT
Hey girls, I just left myself logged in while I was watching that show about books. It's nice to be online at the same time as you guys - it's not often we're all online at the same time! Although I'm afraid I'll have to go now - it's getting late. Nicc, I'll read your comments when I get into work in the morning. Bye for now girls!
|
|
|
Post by Oonagh on Sept 18, 2006 21:11:02 GMT
sorry stuff happened in the house explain later!! How are ya nicci?
|
|
|
Post by nicc on Sept 18, 2006 21:16:23 GMT
Well where do I start. I just finished reading Betrayl of Grace Mulcahy so have all my thoughts on that running through my head, but bare with me. i enjoyed the book but there were some parts that made me feel frustrated. The fight at thew beginning was good. Lucy just took the money and was to scared to tell claire that she was leaving college was interesting. I say it was interesting because the characters ended up being so different then first thought. Lucy was scared of Claire so we assumed (well i did) that Lucy was meek and mild then by the end she was very hrd and tuff, didn't take crap from anyone. I thought Claire was going to be very dominating but then she just let people walk over her. I also thought it was strange that she felt really betrayed by Lucy yet it didn't make her more weary and less trusting of other people. I too thought it strange that Emilie's father asked Claire to look after Emilie. I didn't like him much. He just didn't seem to take any interest in Emilie. He alwys seemed to ring Claire but never really asked about Emilie or wanted to talk to her. That frustrated me. I couldn't understand the attraction Claire had with him. I liked Emilie. Typical spoilt brat, used to getting her own way, yet she just let little things slip that she had overheard. typical child, they always seem to know more thatn adults. I i think I missed the part in the book that told us how they all ended up being at the lodge at the same time. It confused me abit. And I also thought it strange that no-one asked either Lucy or claire about there past relationship. If that was me I'd be asking 'how well did you know such and such?', 'what was so and so like back then?'. you know what I mean. That's all i can think of at the moment. I'll write some more when things are a bit quieter arond here and i can think better.
|
|
|
Post by Abby on Sept 18, 2006 21:34:14 GMT
I thought is was strange that Bernard never took much interest in Emilie but I kinda saw him as lost and lonely, and he just didn't know what to do with her. Possibly when his wife was alive, she would stay at home and look after Emile and do all the day to day stuff and he would be at work most of the time and come home and spoil her rotten with the little time he saw her so when his wife died and he has to look after her he just didn't know what to do and eventually didn't look after him self either, as we found out from emilie right at the end.
|
|
|
Post by Abby on Sept 18, 2006 21:42:19 GMT
Take Care Shirley, I'm off myself although I'll probably be back on once I get to work, its been really quite at work lately, I'm spending some much time on the net there.
|
|
|
Post by megan on Sept 18, 2006 21:42:49 GMT
Hi,
I am feeling better now and thought I would pop on to see what happened here. Looks good! I couldn't put this book down, and wrote a review on it afterwards in that section of the forum. Here I can get down to the nitty -gritty of the novel : Like you Nic, I felt that lucy and Claire changed characters throughout the book. At first I sided with Lucy in the arguement and didn't like Claire, but then when I found out that lucy took the money I went right off her too. So then I didn't like either of them! I warmed to lucy later when she burst out crying after sleeping with Patrick, but then went off her when she went all cold. Claire completely changed in my eyes by the second half of the book and became all soft and maternal. I would have liked her then but couldn't forget about her at the beginning of the book, when I really didn't like her. Shirley, in contrast to you I thought Patrick was a complete slimeball! I HATED the way he came on to Claire in the chalet when he was supposed to have a thing for Lucy. I couldn't get swept up by the romance of him ending up with Lucy after that. I loved Penny - she was hilarious, although I did not agree with the advice that she gave Claire in the bathtub about 'having to put her man first.' What do the rest of you think about that? I thought that this conversation in the bathtub was the most interesting part of the book. I liked Emilie and believed in her character. She was very real and added a lovely element to the story. The most interesting thing about this book for me was the arguement about the relationship between men and women. Should a woman put her man first? I talked to Susanne about this the other night and she (if I understood her correctly) believes that a woman does have to put her man first to make him happy. The reason I find this interesting is because I DID put my husband first for a few years and became miserable and resentful. It took me a while to give it up and now we are both much happier!
|
|
|
Post by Abby on Sept 19, 2006 0:07:03 GMT
Megan, I argee with many things you said, I also couldn't put the book down, I got home after work and found the book waiting for me, half an hour later i was comfortably seated on the lounge and starting it, I did have to put it down at some stages that afternoon but I was finished it the next day, I didn't have a huge hunger to find out what was going to happen in the end but I really enjoyed the story and i wanted to keep going with the flow. I didn't like the way Patrick went after Claire, I was so glad Claire turned him down. At times a thought of him as something of a slimeball but I like his excuse, being worried that he'd get hurt it he stuck around. I think you right about not always putting men first, there needs to be some give and take, and a cut off point. Such as not feeling guilty for enjoying a sunny afternoon outside reading a book when you could be inside attending to every want your man may have.
|
|
|
Post by nicc on Sept 19, 2006 5:11:38 GMT
I'm back. I thought it was funny when Claire got locked outside, but feel the storyline could have been better if lucy hadn't been lost first and nearly dying from cold. I just felt they were to similar situations. And I also thought when Lucy went missing that Claire's feelings towards might have softened a bit and she realised how much she missed her friendship. There didn't seem to be any sort of feeling towards each other whether good or bad. I thought there could have been more hostility between the 2. It just seemed to me like they realised they were staying in the same place but didin't really affect them that much. That's all I can think of for now.
As for lokking after the man first, well I did that in my first marriage and he ended up cheating. now when i met Andrew I thought I won't do that again and even though some things seem one sided and I feel like I do most things for him and such I still have my time to myself. If I want to go shopping he doesn't mind looking after the kids or whatever.
|
|
|
Post by megan on Sept 19, 2006 21:37:32 GMT
I forgot about Patrick being scared of being hurt because of his previous wife/girlfriend. THanks for reminding me Abby. Also it's interesting that both you and Nicc feel the same way about putting men first. I think my mother's generation were told to do that, and the men expected it, but (for me anyway, )things are different now. My marriage is completely different to my parent's one but it took me a long while to learn that our relationship doesn't have to be a carbon copy of my parent's one, and that different types of marriages can also work very well. Oisin and I are much more independent of one another, than my parent's are of each other. I used to worry that we didn't DO enough together, and think that he SHOULD do more with me and me with him, but that only made us both miserable. Now each of us does what we want and we seem to naturally overlap with one another! There is great freedom in it!
|
|
|
Post by Oonagh on Sept 20, 2006 15:19:32 GMT
I didn't like the way Patrick went after Claire, I was so glad Claire turned him down. At times a thought of him as something of a slimeball but I like his excuse, being worried that he'd get hurt it he stuck around. I didnt like it either abby but you understood why!!
|
|