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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 18:42:09 GMT
Did anyone feel though sometimes that they just wanted to grab sally and shake her and say "cop on woman!!"
That would be the only negative thing id have to say about it, yes i know her self esteem was down around her ankles and she felt like an outsider, but still would you really let yourself go thru some of that stuff tho girls??
Excellent , excellent story tho girls, if anyone wants a loan of my copy their more than welcome....
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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 18:43:39 GMT
back in two minutes girls, need to change two nappies.... oh the joys of it.....
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 18:47:45 GMT
you do feel like that at times but there is women who go through that and Sally never felt loved of her family so I think she grabed on to the fact someone loved her.
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 18:48:04 GMT
Lisa this kind of thing goes on and I don't think we know the half of it. Women are still getting battered and putting up with it. There are women that would rather live like this than be alone. It's hard to understand, but it happens. I've seen my sister put up with some real lousers and she always thought it was better than being on her own. Thank God she has met a wonderful guy and is very happy with him
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 18:51:17 GMT
That's true Charlie, she felt such an outsider.
Abby, she was born when her mother was very young, about 18 and although her father supported her they never married. Her parents both went on to marry other people and hve famlies but she never felt part of either family
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Post by Abby on Oct 27, 2005 18:51:22 GMT
Sorry Gals I'm off, since i'm almost up and its such a lovely day I think I'd better get some things done. I will see if I can't get this book in. Enjoy the rest of your evenings. Take Care
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 18:52:48 GMT
See ya Abby, take care and enjoy your day
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 18:53:55 GMT
my first real relationship wasnt a good one he wasnt as bad as Chris but he wasnt far behind I would of done anything to stay with him and he didnt treat me the same way back I was young and luckly I got out of it.
I'm not going to give names but I do know of a guy like Chris.... and your right claire these things go, on scarey thought but true.
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Post by Abby on Oct 27, 2005 18:53:56 GMT
Have a good weekend Catch ya later
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 18:57:00 GMT
Bye Abby have a good weekend.x
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 18:59:00 GMT
I think today that more women realise that they don't have to put up with it anymore and it's not a seen as a failure for trying to get away, no more a case of 'you've made your bed now lie on it' There are alot of divorces here and back home too I know. I'm not saying it's all because of people like Chris but women now know that they DO have a choice
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Post by susanmay on Oct 27, 2005 19:06:19 GMT
Agree with everything you said on your first post, Claire.
Lisa, at times I too wanted to shake, Sally but unfortunately there is women out there like her. Chris was one manipulative piece of work.
One of the best books I've read this year.
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 19:10:43 GMT
great idea for a story line and I loved the way Tracy told it, some of the things she included like when she said Sally jumped up like a dog awaiting his owner to get his lead that was wrote at the time of the dinner with her friends and sally kept getting clumsie and she couldnt wait to leave I thought it was a great way to describe it I just loved the phases Tracy put in .
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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 19:11:57 GMT
is everyone still here?
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:11:58 GMT
He was very clever the way he worked, wasn't he. He seemed just too good to be true. It got to me how easily he got into all her computer stuff without her knowing. That he could sneak into her personal life like that. That something that really scares me
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:13:08 GMT
We're still here Lisa. How'veya been woman?
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Post by susanmay on Oct 27, 2005 19:13:20 GMT
She's some writer, Charlie. I think she's the best around at the moment.
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:15:07 GMT
Susan, have you read Looking Good also by Tracy? What was it like
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 19:17:17 GMT
I was going to ask that has anyone read any more of Tracy's book and are they just as good?
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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 19:17:59 GMT
oh girls PLEASE dont get me wrong, not for one tiny second am i suggesting that Sally was a fool for putting up with it and she was a stupid woman not to walk away. No, Im not saying that at all cos belive me I for one can tell you how almost impossible it is to walk out of an abusive relationship.
No, what im saying is, i feel that at times the story in the book may have gone on a bit as it the character was protrayed as being an extremeley intelligent, and somewhat confident woman, and I think she would have gone for help maybe alot sooner than she did in the end you know.
Oh, sorry, im not explaining myself very well atall, just ignore me, im absolutely exhausted and having a hard time right now so my own hormones and emotions are playing havoc.
yeah girls, he really was one nasty piece of work wasnt he? and im sure theres guys like him all over the place. God, the emotional abuse can be just as damaging and violent as the acutal physical abuse cant it girls?
See ya abbey have a good weekend!!
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:18:28 GMT
Loving Lucy was also done on one of book club nights
it's on the december 23rd thread
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Post by susanmay on Oct 27, 2005 19:20:40 GMT
I agree, Claire. Some of the scenes in the book really got me thinking. A girl I know some time back was dating a well know soccer player over here. He followed her in his car constantly and knew everything she was doing. When she tried to end the relationship he pursued her more. Thankfully the relationship ended and he could no longer buy her with gifts. I had forgotten about that story because I haven't seen the girl in years but this book brought it all back. It would really make you think. God knows how many women out there are suffering the same as the character, Sally. I shudder to think.
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:24:09 GMT
It's ok Lisa, I like it when we talk like this about a book.
But didn't she try to get help for her 'senior moments' but the doc even just laughed it off. Yeah she was intelligent but under it all had little self esteem, she was very unsure of herself. She so badly wanted to belong to a pair that she put up with it.
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 19:25:48 GMT
Look no futher than Jodie Marsh's book Susan I know he wasnt as bad as Chris(do you know who I mean) he didnt treat her good.
I do know what you mean Lisa I think there is times I'm screaming in my head It's Him and I havent finished the book yet...hope I'm not wrong.
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Post by susanmay on Oct 27, 2005 19:25:53 GMT
Loving Lucy was great, Claire. Another book that would make good conversation for a book club.
If I was to look for faults in this book which I'm not but I'll say it anyway!!!!!. . . was the cover and something that happened at the end. I'm not going to spoil it on, Charlie but Lisa and Claire probably know what I'm talking about??
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Post by claire on Oct 27, 2005 19:27:48 GMT
The cover was wrong, but I don't look at that, pm me on the other
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Post by susanmay on Oct 27, 2005 19:29:54 GMT
I know who you mean, Charlie. He seems to be such an idiot if you go by what Jodi says in the book. How a woman that looks like she does and is financially secure can date a man like him I don't know. Also a few of the boy band members she dated weren't much better.
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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 19:31:33 GMT
I know, its such an awful situation to be in.
I was in a relationship once that wasnt so much abusive but there was an huge amount of control on his side.
I went to counselling over another issue and this came up and it so helped me to get a handle on why i went for certain types of men you know.
I was just so co-dependent on him. I remember my counseller saying were were like a three legged chair and when that relationship ended I just keeled over. I too put up with so much crap that there isnt a chance in hell id put up with now, sure jaysus I batter poor stephen now!! LOL!!! ;D
only kidding, but you know what i mean girls.
Yes, tracey really is an excellent writer, ive read all 3 of hers. She tells an amazing story everytime.
What did you think of Sallys Mam? ;D
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Post by lisa on Oct 27, 2005 19:33:06 GMT
We're still here Lisa. How'veya been woman? Claire im fine girl thanks, i sent you a PM earlier, did you get it? tough going tho with two small ones!! Max is doing fine though, bless him. started teething this week so is a bit cranky. Wheres the time going at all? Cant belive he'll be 4 months old in a fortnight!!!
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Post by charlene on Oct 27, 2005 19:35:06 GMT
I know exatly what you mean Lisa poor Jason hasnt a hope with me after my first bad relationship I vowed never again would I let a man treat me like that.
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