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Post by Oonagh on Oct 16, 2006 20:02:01 GMT
I didnt like RAy but sure you know what I hate in books!! I remeber reading it in bed it was bliss. ity was not out of my sight for the day.
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Post by megan on Oct 16, 2006 20:04:22 GMT
THanks for that Emma! Another spanner is good! I have a feeling that Ray will stick with Tina too. What really got my goat up was the thought that people might think Ray was 'great' for not having had a full blown affair with Cathy. Like he was some sort of saint, for being faithful to his own wife! I'm glad of course that it didn't go any further, but I wish that Tina could have found out, so that she could have made her own decision about the two of them. I feel sorry for her being left in the dark.
I also enjoyed the boutique that Cathey worked in. I thought that was done very well. I could reallly picture it.
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Post by Oonagh on Oct 16, 2006 20:05:33 GMT
yeah totally! i felt so sorry for her mother as well. Its tough the kids were adorable
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Post by megan on Oct 16, 2006 20:06:09 GMT
Write it down Claire!!
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Post by claire on Oct 16, 2006 20:11:44 GMT
I had a felling that Tina knew something was up though. And I think she would have worked things out with Ray. Oh I hated what he did alright, and was glad it didn't go all the way, but to think he was a great man for not doing it, no I didn't think that.
I have seen so many couples split up over the years, people that I thought would be together forever. I can't go around thinking, 'that won't happen to me' it could very wel happen, who's to say. Getting married is very easy but staying married is something you have to work at.
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Post by megan on Oct 16, 2006 20:12:52 GMT
I am at my parent's house on one side of Dublin and have to drive home now. I will log on again, in about an hour, when I get home, to see what more is discussed. Happy chatting, until then!
Megan x
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Post by sMurphy on Oct 16, 2006 20:14:12 GMT
Unfortunately I guess this is true, and as you so rightly point out Claire, with email and SMS, you could be so in the dark as to when even a flirtation is going on... Must be one of the worst betrayals... let's hope none of us ever have to find out!
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Post by sMurphy on Oct 16, 2006 20:15:18 GMT
Safe home Megan! 'Fraid I have a less than tempting mountain of ironing that is calling to me! Ah the joys of housewifery!!
Hugs to you all, Great chatting - R.
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Post by megan on Oct 16, 2006 20:15:30 GMT
Claire, I think Tina, would probably have worked things out with Ray too, if she had found out.
I agree that staying married takes a lot of work! But it's most definitely worth it!
bye for now.
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Post by sMurphy on Oct 16, 2006 20:16:58 GMT
Just noticed that I now have TWO stars!! Hooray - I must have graduated to the next level tonight!! Alleluia!! (there's my competitive streak - down boy!!)
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Post by claire on Oct 16, 2006 20:20:38 GMT
megan I'm trying but i can't find the right words.
I think things are different too when you have kids and when people say they stick around for the sake of the kids I can understand that. When I say that I can see how people can easily fall into flirting thing like what Ray was doing, doesn't mean I agree with it. What Hein and I have is wonderful, and I would do anything to keep it that way but it takes the two of us to do it. We have both changed since we met 19 years ago and certainly a lot in the last 16 years of marriage, what with kids and everything. We went through real tough time after I had Ryan. I was so alone here with no family arounf just stuck in the house all the time. I was too tired to do anything and so depressed. We used to avoid each other, even in bed. But something happened, I don't know what it was, I think it was yet another divorce of friends of ours, when I said that I didn't want that to happen. We sat up literally the whole night talking, and yes we got things back on track. But I'm not blind to the fact that it just takes one so called innocent flirtation to more than rock the boat.
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Post by claire on Oct 16, 2006 20:22:19 GMT
Keep this up Roewna and you'll be a God before you know it!
might not be here when you get home Megan, take care
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Post by Shirley on Oct 16, 2006 20:26:20 GMT
Interesting discussion girls! I didn't think Ray was any great shakes just for copping himself on and realising what he had, but I was glad that it turned out that way. In a way, I too would have liked Tina to have found out about it all just to see how she would have reacted to it. Mary, you will have to come on here and give us the motivation behind Ray's actions! You are the only one who really knows what is going on in that man's head! :-)
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Post by claire on Oct 16, 2006 20:28:00 GMT
I thought she would have been here by now, maybe she is waiting for us all to go to bed before she reads it
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Post by claire on Oct 16, 2006 20:46:33 GMT
well I finished for the night, can't keep my eyes open any longer. I'll catch up on the rest tomorrow.
night night all
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Post by Oonagh on Oct 16, 2006 21:03:45 GMT
sorry girls neighbours came in
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Post by charlene on Oct 16, 2006 21:16:41 GMT
well I'll add my thoughts sorry I'm late kids have just gone to sleep,
I loved the book at first I must admit I thought oh no loads of characters but there wasnt it was just right to keep on track with everyone and I liked the switch between them I think Mary did that brilliantly you got just enough of each then move to the next really liked that. It was a book when I was busy I would be thinking about the characters and getting back to read it and I looked forward to going to bed my time to read my book and relax, this book was fab for that.
Fav character has got to be Tina I liked her from the start and liked the way she handled her lottery win it made me think what I would do in that position [you never know] about the Ray and cathy I didnt like the way they phoned each other and I was so glad it didnt go futher and I did feel for Tina it would of been interesting to see how she handled it if she knew. I loved the part when cathys mother confronted the other woman in her husbands life, Tinas snobby neighbours wife brilliant stuff.
also I loved the theam of the book them being friends through the football very good and different.
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Post by Shirley on Oct 16, 2006 21:20:46 GMT
I loved the part when cathys mother confronted the other woman in her husbands life, Tinas snobby neighbours wife brilliant stuff. Oh yeah, really good point Charlie! That was great alright. And I liked the way that was woven into the story - I never suspected that the snobby neighbour's wife would come into the story that way!
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Post by charlene on Oct 16, 2006 21:23:29 GMT
me either it was a good unexpected little twist, when I read things like that I am in awe as I think I could never do that think of the little twists if I were a writer
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Post by megan on Oct 16, 2006 22:02:20 GMT
I'm back now from my parents. Thanks for your post about your marriage, Claire. I am really interested in marriage and relationships, and I really appreciated your honesty. I'm so glad that you and Hein worked things out. Oisin and I have had our rough times too. I remember going through a particularly bad phase, that had gone on a long time, when we went to see a film about a marriage breaking up. It was scarily like watching us on the screen, and that's when I remember thinking - Something's got to change or we're heading for a split. It was cop on time! And we worked it out - thankfully. I can imagine that it is different with kids and that, because you have less time for yourselves as a couple, you might have to work even harder at keeping the relationship together. Oisin and I sometimes don't have that much time together, even without kids! I would have liked to see Tina and Ray work their marriage out. Hey, Mary perhaps you could put in in a sequel - Tina finds out about Ray and Cathy's phonecalls, and you tell the tale of what she does! And, Oonagh wants to know about Cathy and the solicitor, so you could tell that story too! (If you want to, of course!) You've got us wanting more!
Thanks for a great discussion everyone.
And Mary, thank you for 'Love Match' - the wonderful inspiration behind it all!
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Post by Shirley on Oct 17, 2006 8:47:12 GMT
Yeah, it was a great bookclub - it really got us all talking!
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Post by Mary on Oct 17, 2006 11:45:25 GMT
Can I just say a huge thank you to everybody for taking the time to read and discuss Love Match. You have made a Cork woman very happy reading this chat today! I appreciate it, girls, and huge thanks to all!
Also, I should have said, Claire, the reason I didn't log on during the book club was I felt it would be a more honest discussion without me there.
hope this explains, Mary.
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Post by susanmay on Oct 31, 2006 20:21:51 GMT
I did like Ray, he was so suited to Tina, and I so did not want him to ring Cathy. I think it is something that any one of us could fall into, without seeing any harm in it. I would be very upset with Hein if I was to find out something like that, that he was talking to another woman, although upset is not quite the right word, I'd flush all his phones down the toilet if I ever found out something ike that. But how and ever, it seems to be the thing these days that people are always looking out for something better, a little bit more excitement, when it is up to them to keep it in their own relationships I think you hit the nail on the head Claire. These days people always seem to be on the look out for something better. Well what more can I say - I loved this book! My favourite scene was when Ray and Tina got their own back on their snobbish neighbours. I could almost see the faces of shock on that horrible couple. I liked Cathy's mother though.
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Post by Oonagh on Oct 31, 2006 20:45:15 GMT
That was a brill scene. i loved that bit!
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